Age of Empires 1 ► True Definitive Edition Gameplay? – 5th Legacy Mod – [Gamer Encounters]

We continue to search for Age of Empires Definitive Edition alternatives and here’s the original AoE 1 with Upatch HD and the 5th Legacy mod! It even has walkable farms like AoE DE and new civilizations and graphics. What do you think?

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  • I was recently told about the 5th Legacy mod that combines with uPatch by iakpan in Twitch chat and it's another great alternative to Age of Empires Definitive Edition. Even has walkable farms but campaigns need to be imported manually. What do you think of it? Meanwhile, if you'd like to see more Gamer Encounters you can check out the full playlist for Two Point Hospital, Tropico 6, and Age of Empires Online

    GamerZakh June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Awesome video!
    Some other cool AoE 1 mods that you might be interested in:
    Lost Empires
    Rise of the Empires
    Unique units mod
    Unique wonders
    Age of the Ring (lord of the rings mod)
    Lord of the Rings campaign

    Aden Brett June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • U PATCH HD is not installing in age of empires :defintive edition

    Shashidhar Hatti June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • these mods will install in defintive edition

    Shashidhar Hatti June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • To be honest the roads are useless because you will not have enough time building them, maybe in online playing, they dont add bonuses, it was better if they add like faster movement speed because they could be used for economy to get resources faster

    Dradon Official June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Oh nice! first time that I see this It would be great to play my scenarios =)

    Wynn Luna June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Watching intently to see if there are gates!

    Ashadowtotheworld June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • DE is better

    Der Dummeling June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • GamerZakh, would it be possible for you to update this video after the January 27th update? If you do, don't play on the Honshu map type. 5thLegacy is also available at Mod Db.

    Proseon5 June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • I download mod from your link and get 50 pop… What i need to do to get 200 pop

    Rafael Neferanović June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • I actually click on Like because of the speech from final part of the video. I agree with you. And it's sad that there aren't many players on aoe1 ( i'm a GameRanger user ). I would totally invest money if this game was on steam. I hope that one day they will wake up. Until then, AOE 2 is the game to go.

    horia43 June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • More Age of Empires!:}}}

    Mantas Unreal June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • What do you think about game Total War Rome II and would you like to try it. 🙂

    Vladimir Medvjedev June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • okay, we got the point, you're bad at the game, no need to repeat it 100 times.

    lousku June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • It looks awesome, can we play this online?

    Moisés Colín June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Its great to watch this on my birthday i'm 27 : )

    Joseph June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Man I wish I knew where I have my AoE CD left …

    JanoschNr1 June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • The Grass terrain looks weird tho

    Dradon Official June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • I've played that mod and it's great. Too bad AoE1 doesn't support tech trees, they would be a great help.
    A lot of new 'factions' (they are based on existing civs, not a brand new one with unique artstyles etc). Still a lot of fun.

    Jj June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • ONly thing lacking there, is that button in AOE2 in the mills, that make u put farms in line for construction,
    and when u click in a dead farm, the vill start construct immediately

    zoiuduu June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • I'm at 11:00 and you still didn't point out the hugest improvement in this mod ! The trees and forests seem to be walkable !!! It never made sense to me how a forest could be used as part of your defense and it bothered me (especially in AoE2) ! That's amazing ! How could you not notice it. Yes, you told us about farm that can be walked upon but it is also in DE and less important than the trees being so !

    Stikarii June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Sorry but I kinda disagree with that mod. First of all what's with the hype about pathfinding? Most of the time units were walking through the trees like if they had no collision at all, so it's not surprise that pathfinding looked somewhat decent. Second the grass looks awful and unnatural specially around buildings, undiscovered areas and the "sand-sides" around lakes and rivers. As third it would be roads? like roads with no effect what so ever? I literally don't know a single person who was like "You know what this game needs? Buildable roads with no effect" back in the old days. And last but not least the slaves… I mean i haven't play this mod yet but I already can think of multiple ways to abuse their strength if there's no limitation of them except the general population limit.

    So even tho the mod adds some other nice little things to the game, it still feels more or less unnecessary to me specially with those things mentioned above.

    Flizzy Duck June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Great video, really appreciate that you're looking at age of empires mods. Something that's been looked over for many years now.

    5th Legacy is a great mod and Patrick has put a lot of work into the mod but I don't think it'll be something that I would have prefered as to Definitive Edition. If they did all the balance changes, made building placements walkable, farms walkable and all of that, I would have prefered it. But the 5th Legacy goes beyond Age of Empires, adding roads, slaves, etc. It's allowed to, it's a mod. I wouldn't except this as an official replacement to Definitive Edition itself, as it changes too much. (I also don't agree with how 5th Legacy balanced RoR and love what DE did with it. It's a shame aoe_scout hasn't updated Upatch HD with a DE update. But he's too busy working for FE/MS now.)

    Something that people never really touch on, are Age of Empires fans. Strictly, the competitive ones. Some do exist in Japan, with players like DoctoralMario, Imtlias, etc. and others in the west like Hostile clan and some players from zone/voobly. But that's only a handful. In Vietnam, they have a huge following and it's surprising how huge it is. 60,000 watched a tournament game between two players, I believe Chim Se Di Nang vs. Tieu Thuy Ngu on a youtube live stream, others watched on other channels with about 1,000 – 10,000 viewers. It wasn't even the finals. The problem is, they are overlooked and it's very difficult to cater to, what is AoE1's largest fan base, as they still use patch 1.0 with Shang 35 food Villager cost and more importantly, the Farm Bug, which allows you to abuse a glitch to have infinite food. They don't like walkable farms, they use prebuilt buildings as obstacles to slow down retreating units, they would want as little change as possible.

    GameTV, a Vietnamese esport team, were the only ones to host any sort of tournament. There was a small following on Definitive Edition and even some AoE2 Vietnamese players performed well in these tournaments. There might be more tournaments in the future but there might not be. There were not a lot of Vietnamese players interested in these tournaments in the first place, I think they maxed at 10,000 viewers, which is below the average for a GameTV streamed tournament.

    Yes, when it came to Definitive Edition, it was a huge failure and yes, in hindsight it was too ambitious. I would have accepted distribution of Upatch on Windows Store, some may not have, but I would've. I do agree, that what you suggested would've been a great way to remaster AoE. Unfortunately, I don't see DE being what is meant to be. The FE team are perfectly capable of fixing some of the issues you've mentioned but they won't be able to because DE wasn't successful. Something to add to that, is I don't think AoE: DE was big enough to sell on and promote the Windows Store platform, if they wanted AoE: DE to do well they should've released it on Steam as well, most of the issues with DE not working were do to with Windows Store or a Windows update anyway, something that could've been avoided, or at least better if released on Steam (AoE 2: HD & AoM didn't have very clean releases either though, which were both on steam).

    As much as I love people modding AoE1, I must inform you that all Patrick would seem like it has done, is replace the difficulty levels to sound more ancient warlike. He hasn't updated, to my knowledge, the AI in any way. All the changes were bug fixes by Upatch, if you really want an improvement on the AI and a more DE like feel I highly suggest you check out RockNRor by Chab. It's a great tool, unfortunately not compatible with Upatch. It may not have walkable farms, but implements drop points randomly generated AI (so it's a unique strategy each game) as well as a bunch of other changes. The point of RockNRor is that you can customize the game to suit you, unfortunately, this means it's not the best tool for multiplayer and is not as user-friendly.

    Also a side note, in 1v1's at least, and is also a pet peeve of the Vietnamese community of DE, was that's there are too many tool age games. It's only really viable to fast bronze on really safe maps, water maps and in pocket position. It's much easier to perform an axeman or slinger rush and I suggest if people want a place to start, that's what you should learn first. (I'll put a comment to this linking to sources.) I've joined your discord if you ever wanted to chat further about this. There are a lot more things that I could cover that I didn't get round to.

    Epid June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Starcraft Remastered had a new graphical style (based on the old one but still remade), had new voice acting for all non English languages, and changed some sounds.
    For AoE1, I made virtual CDs (cue/bin) of my AoE CD years ago so I don't need a CD player for them anymore. For the rest, I would be ok.

    Danicela - June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • I dont understand why you dont like the graphics of the Definitive Edition

    Pumpkin Pie June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • It it easy to turn these mods on and off quickly and cleanly with the UPatch interface? It looks interesting to use occasionally but not something I'd play most of the time.

    dukdukgoos June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • 44:56 "If they screw up, someone else will make Age of Empires for them" Essentially, it means if the competition video game is better, like in the case of SimCity and Cities Skylines, fans will move out to the competition.

    King_Oskar June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Oh this music…nostalgia

    mit7378 June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • For the second hardest diffuculty way to easy.
    I mean your build is messed up, lost 2 Villagers to Elephants, unbalanced eco etc.. (no offense!)

    And still you were quite easy able to win that game.

    Scary Cookie June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • GZ: "Sheehaa!"

    Tom Anderson June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • I like the idea of the mod (and I am really glad GamerZakh is highlighting it as an alternative to the bad Definitive Edition), but disapprove of the "Atlantean" and "Koryo" civs (Choson is already in the game as Korea's representative, and the Koryo dynasty began in the medieval era, 10th century AD to be specific). There really wasn't a need to increase the civs beyond some African civs and India. The grass looks…furry. Weird. Also, I spotted the AI walking long distances to grab their elephant meat after the map reveal was used…

    TheGojoseon June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • too many memories and these are good to feel with you haha nice video

    Eren Bulut June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • i didnt know AoE1 had mods, i really like it!

    Delapool June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • at least I can play this without having to upgrade windows and break all the modded games that I have (manually) installed in the process.

    Jamaly June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Thanks for mentioning me dearest Zakh!! And of course this mod its worth playing and feel the nostalgia too!! So much stuff and its under development, so I suggest everyone give a try to this! Again, thank you Zakh!!! 🙂

    Iak Pan June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Heard today that EA is thinking about Reamatering the C&C series.

    Ethopiryna June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • I can't find the mod :c Can you post a link pls ?

    Fernando Liça June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply
  • Teal is a very good color!

    I'll check that mod in near future. I go back to AoE1 from time to time, just to feel nostalgia, hear music and unit quotes.

    Jj June 8, 2020 8:19 pm Reply

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